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tandtrollet
Jun 3 2006, 07:04 PM
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Salama Caleykum ppl!

I'm home again (school's out) and my darling dad just came back from Africa. There, he exprienced difficulties with opening his jaw. He experienced the same thing here in Sweden too, a couple of years back, he went to a doctor, and the doctor told him to put his fist in his jaw (and force the jaw open). It helped, but then it worsened in Africa

His kenyan doctor sent him to a dentist who said that something had become more "soft" and prescribed a drug called Arlitryphine (triptron). So I searched the drug on the homepage of the govermental pharmaceutical site (fass.se)..but no hits.

Does anyone recognize this drug? And what about the "softening" of some tissue? (I haven't had any oral physiology yet, just anatomy. It seems to me like it would be m. temporalis? He has the typical headache in the anterior portion of it. Could the problem perhaps be orthodontical??).

Plz if you recognize the drug, let me know.
 
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QUOTE(tandtrollet @ Jun 3 2006, 03:04 PM)

Salama Caleykum ppl!

I'm home again (school's out) and my darling dad just came back from Africa. There, he exprienced difficulties with opening his jaw. He experienced the same thing here in Sweden too, a couple of years back, he went to a doctor, and the doctor told him to put his fist in his jaw (and force the jaw open). It helped, but then it worsened in Africa

His kenyan doctor sent him to a dentist who said that something had become more "soft" and prescribed a drug called Arlitryphine (triptron). So I searched the drug on the homepage of the govermental pharmaceutical site (fass.se)..but no hits.

Does anyone recognize this drug? And what about the "softening" of some tissue? (I haven't had any oral physiology yet, just anatomy. It seems to me like it would be m. temporalis? He has the typical headache in the anterior portion of it. Could the problem perhaps be orthodontical??).

Plz if you recognize the drug, let me know.


Sorry to hear your father's jaw problems. The only thing comes into mind is temporomandibular joint dysfunction (TMJD), where the jaw joint does not open or close correctly.

Here is what the medical dictionary says....

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Illustration showing the jaw joint


What causes TMJD symptoms?
The jaw pain, clicking and restricted movement may be caused by problems with either the jaw joint itself or the muscles surrounding it, or both.

Pain can be caused by the ligaments and muscles surrounding the jaw tightening up.

Alternatively the ligaments may become loose, so that the disc of cartilage no longer stays between the jaw bone and the skull when the joint is moved. This may make a noise, either when the disc clicks forward after the mouth is opened or clicks back into place when it is closed. The noise may seem louder to you because the joint is close to the ear. Jaw locking is also caused by the disc slipping and getting stuck out of place.

Why does TMJD develop?
One of the most common causes of TMJD is teeth grinding and clenching, when you regularly push and scrape your teeth together. You may do this at night when you are sleeping, or when you are concentrating on something or feeling stressed. You may not be aware that you are doing it. Jaw problems can also result from nail biting or holding things between your teeth, which you may do more when you feel anxious or stressed.

Diagnosing jaw joint problems
Jaw joint problems are usually diagnosed by your dentist.

Your dentist needs to find out what is causing your problems so that he or she can advise you which treatments may be best for you. So it is important to discuss all of your symptoms. He or she will ask where and when you feel pain or clicking.

Your dentist will look at your teeth for signs of wear due to grinding and examine your jaw joint. This will involve checking the way that you open and close your mouth and feeling the muscles around the area to see if they are tender. Your dentist may also ask you if you are feeling stressed or anxious because this may be making any grinding or clenching worse.

Treatment for TMJD
Treatment depends on the type of jaw joint problem you have.

Usually your dentist will be able to help relieve your symptoms with simple treatments. He or she will explain the problem to you and give you advice on anything you can do to reduce pain or clicking, such as not yawning too widely or choosing soft foods.

Your dentist may give you some jaw exercises to do. The aim of these is to improve the way that the joint works and to strengthen the muscles surrounding it. If stress is causing symptoms, counselling and relaxation therapy can help some people.

Your dentist may prescribe painkillers to help ease the pain. He or she may also advise you to put a heat pad or ice pack on the jaw joint area to help soothe it. If you use ice, don't apply it directly to your skin. Wrap it in a clean cloth or towel.

If your dentist thinks that you are clenching or grinding your teeth at night then he or she may suggest that you wear a mouth splint or mouthguard. This is a cover made from hard or soft plastic that fits over your upper or lower teeth. The aim of the splint is to change the way your teeth close together and prevent you grinding your teeth.

The splint is made to fit your mouth exactly. Your dentist will take impressions of your teeth using a kind of putty and send these to a laboratory where the splint is made.

You normally wear the splint at night and can also wear it at stressful times to prevent grinding and clenching. A splint can start to relieve pain in about three or four weeks, though your dentist will probably recommend that you keep wearing it for longer.

Your dentist will refer you to a specialist if your symptoms do not improve. The specialist may prescribe stronger painkillers or other medication to help relieve the pain. If stress or anxiety is making you grind or clench your teeth, he or she may prescribe anti-depressants to help you to relax.

Occasionally, surgery may be recommended. This is not common and is only recommended for a small number of people. It is important that you talk through all of the options with your specialist before having any surgery.


As far as the agent/drug you mentioned, Arlitryphine (triptron), I never heard of it. Are you sure you got the name right? In any case, I hope it wasn't a non-reversible treatment method that permanently altered your father's bite (probably not).

Is he in Europe now, or back home? I would advise you to consult with a local physician about this condition.

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Jun 19 2006, 05:26 PM
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Salama caleykum!

Thanx for the article, perhaps the part about the ligaments being too loose was what dad was refering to (he said that the doctor had told him that something had become "jileec"). And also, I took a pamphlet about exercise for the masticory muscels from work, he promised he would use it. I asked a doc at work about the drug, she didn't know, dad is not here, but I'll make him go to some one here when he comes back inshLah.



nabad iyo caano!
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Jun 28 2006, 06:12 AM
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TMJ can require surgery, but as a last ditch effort to relief pain. Less than 1% of the people with TMJ symptoms take this route.

TMJ is also considered a form of arthritis, which leads to joints moving out of alignment - but arthritis itself does not exhibit or cause TMJ symptoms. Although the involvement is difficult to determine - arthritis is usually seen in other joints prior to TMJ. Do you know if your father was treated for arthritis before? (just curious).

This is an area I will look into inshallah, as I plan to pursue Oral Maxillofacial Surgery after my dental degree (pure dream!). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/SDN.gif)

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Jul 2 2006, 12:34 PM
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Salaamz Toof!

Thanx for the information, it should be arthritis per def. But I actually forced him to go with me to work. I learned that he was a typical "pressare" (someone who presses his jaws real hard). You could see that cuz the lower front teeth (3: 1o2 + 4:1o2) looked like they had been grinded. He had marks on his tongue and his temple was sore, also sore masseters I suppose. We came to the conclusion that the medicine he had been given were muscle relaxers.......next time he's here they will make a "bettskena", something that is designed after his bite which releaves the pressure from his jaws and joint.......so alhamduLilah, it was nothing serious. And aabo doesn't have arthritis thanx to God, mom does, but that a different story.

Surgery is not pure dream! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/coolthumb.gif) Actually halft my class want to become jaw-surgeons..they make about 500,000 SEK..a month! *hellooo*. But around here you have to work for atleast two years, and usually after the internship, be willing to be a teacher for a couple of years..which practically means, that you have to stay put in Sweden for almost a decade after ur done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/crying.gif) I think radiology seems fun, but I dont have the patience to stay put for that long, so it will prolly become prostethics, inshLah!
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QUOTE(tandtrollet @ Jul 2 2006, 08:34 AM)

Actually halft my class want to become jaw-surgeons..they make about 500,000 SEK..a month!


That's like.......... $70,000 US dollars a month, close to a $1 million a year. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shock.gif)

OMFS is competitive in the US, a recent article from Journal of Maxillofacial Surgery (JMS) reported that there are 180 available residency positions in which there were only 300 total applicants applied to. It may sound not so hard to get into, but it's a tough process all together (additional 4-6 years of training after DDS/DMD).

By the way, glad to hear your dad getting more attention on his TMJ.
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Salaamz Toof!
Thanx bruv!
Yes I'm sure it's hard..but everything is ehh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/umbrella.gif) They make 500,000 sek..atleast to an iranian friend of mine (she was the one who enligtened me about the whole issue (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol.gif) ). I'm sure that she's right, since a couple of newly finished dentists from our school make up to 10,000 � in England (they have have no speciality). One day inshLah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/zorro.gif)
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